You tag along my comment to insult me with strawman attacks? You’re implying people should have left a decade ago. I did. I can only assume you did too. What did you do in the mean time? Help out creating clones from the ancient open source reddit code? Self-host open fediverse and SSB servers to present an alternative to people locked in to reddit? Run workshops in your local community to educate normies?
I did. Can I assume you did too?
Reddit doesn’t want third party apps
Of course. Am I’m sure reddit would want individual users to pay 99 dollars a month for access - If they could.
This is pretty cut and dry to be honest.
Sure, and that’s up to reddit to handle how they please. But saying reddit created an API pricing system designed to force out smaller actors by unreasonable pricing is possibly the polar opposite of saying reddit is being reasonable with their pricing.
And a small edit on the previous post I never got to:
Reddit has to pay to host that data so I do feel like they should make money on it.
If the users explicitly understands what the data will go to, it’s just another business transaction. But I think most reddit users never envisioned their data being used like this.
That would make the practice predatory.
The best analogy I could come up with involved corpses, sex and “We have to pay the rent for the morgue so we feel entitled to…” but I’ll spare you. Let’s just say I think the users have been fucked by reddit.
I actually think reddit is completely reasonable.
Companies are using the reddit api to harvest data and then train AI models which they can then sell. Reddit has to pay to host that data so I do feel like they should make money on it.
Even if the end result is shutting out one-person companies providing regular users access to regular content?
You’re comparing two vastly situations, with two different profit models. In one case, a company buys access to data that will improve their computers and maybe make billions.
In the other an app that offers access to a website. A website my dude! 20 million dollars per year for doing reddit a service and sparing their users from a crud android app?
Of course they shouldn’t pay the same. User apps should compensate reddit for bandwidth usage and loss of ad revenue. Maybe even get a fat discount for creating a well put together reddit app.
Big Data clients should pay with their blood because they’re sucking out the essense of our digital souls.
Being able to archive stuff is a service that adds value to reddit. They’ve not suffered due to app developers for years, they’ve directly benefitted from grey area legality by refusing to enforce their own rules until it became more profitable to do so.
This is what’s called unethical with a side of plausible deniability.
I remember missing images an issue on a previous upgrade, think it was one of the later 16.x. Think it was something with pictrs, I’m trying to find some info on it.
I’m not a huge fan of instance blocking especially when community blocking is usually enough but it’s good people can identify extremism coming from the left too.
Me neither, but some times people are quite unreasonable and one should have no realistic hope for coexistance. I know of several lemmy instances that got choked to death by lemmy.ml/lemmygrad and it only reinforced their grip on the lemmyverse. When one half of the lead lemmy devs hardcoded a block against using the Jerboa app with a certain instance, I understood there’s no dialogue. No compromise.
Not only no coexistence but active eradication of any dissenting voice with every means reasonably available. I consider it evil.
The lemmyverse is currently in a social “revolution” due to demographic change. This should be the new normal. What happens if lemmy.ml is able to wrestle their way back as the default instance and end up in the same position again?
Irrelevance for them is better for all of us. If some or all instances block them, I don’t think I could care less at this point. I would have before a certain lead dev showed how hateful they are and willing to use what they present as a gift to humanity and society as a tool of control.
I hate having to go there but
reddit is worse than Morbius.
I know Ruud from Mastodon. He seems cool and legit.
I don’t care about overtaking reddit, all I want is for the fascistic and discriminatory lemmy.ml to be dwarfed into irrelevance. Or become more notorious, so the number of instances that block them is steadily rising like now.
After seeing one of the reddit refugees describe Lemmy.ml as an communist server that most instances just block, I knew there was hope again.
I think that new user was in Lemmy.world. 😁
I don’t even know where to begin. I’d ask what you mean with “physically incompatible”, like the GUI? Trying to make two platforms speak the same protocol? Have you heard about the ActivityPub protocol and how both Lemmy and whatever you’re on currently use it? Have you checked out lemmybb, a classic bulletin-board presentation of a standard Lemmy database?
You know what, just forget about it. Let’s not interact again.