Yeah I guess that’s the problem everything I see from this instance is mostly grievance politics or murder fantasies about some group. To be fair I wasn’t really sure on defederation but then that shit just started showing up everywhere… And also when someone is saying you are a fascist they are not saying that you are a Nazi they are different words. Sorry about your grandma that story was no Bueno. My great grandmothers family was killed by Italian fascists in the mid 1930s. Anyways here’s a joke before I go to bed.
If Russia and Germany would invade Poland again, who the Poles will shoot at first?
Germans. Business before pleasure.
I do not think there are real murder fantasies going on here at all - I am not sure what this is in reference to…
I actually think we are a real Libertarian instance and we have some red pilled Libertarians or “Alt Libertarians” who occasionally say very offensive shit, but the goal has never been nor will it ever be to impose anything on anyone.
Also… If you look at the ModLog… You can go back and see that there have actually been isntances where comments have been removed solely because the N-word was used.
I do not think there are real murder fantasies going on here at all
You have upvoted posts where the top comment is “trannyfags should be lined up and shot.”… This is public content, so I’m not sure why you want to deny that stuff like that is going on here and is obviously tolerated…
but the goal has never been nor will it ever be to impose anything on anyone.
I don’t know what your opinion is, but there are definitely people here who apparently want death for trans people, or drag queens, or homosexuals, or leftists…
there have actually been isntances where comments have been removed solely because the N-word was used.
I don’t think the usage of the N-word is what concerns people most…
You have upvoted posts where the top comment is “trannyfags should be lined up and shot.”… This is public content, so I’m not sure why you want to deny that stuff like that is going on here and is obviously tolerated…
I actually have no memory of upvoting something as grotesquely worded as that, but perhaps the attached meme was funny.
I don’t know what your opinion is, but there are definitely people here who apparently want death for trans people, or drag queens, or homosexuals, or leftists…
I do not want death or coercion for anybody.
I don’t think the usage of the N-word is what concerns people most…
Then this makes the situation a bit dishonest.
Use the N-word and you are an evil Nazi, but
It’s even worse if you just say shit we don’t like and are not saying the N-word because now you’re ultra-dangerous cryptofash
😂 no one’s talking about the n word. And real libertarians generally don’t worship or want a dictator but I guess the meaning of the word changed recently or whatever.
Plus this is why people upvote the drag show meme:
Not because we think we need to interfere in the lives of gay people - nothing can be done really to make them choose anything differnet, it is the way of their life, let them live it - but because we dislike groomers, and that is what a “family friendly” drag show is based around, more or less.
Virtually everyone dislikes groomers… But you can’t throw a whole group of people into the same box for the actions of individuals… That would be just as ridiculous as saying “Christians are groomers because the catholic church has a problem with child abuse” or “all conservatives are nazis”…
And fyi, trans women are biologically able to breastfeed their children. There is medication for biological women and trans women that makes it possible for them to produce milk without being pregnant.
I’m not saying I support it, in my opinion there are concerns with taking this medicine (this applies to both biological women and trans women taking that medicine). But those kind of posts aren’t constructive discussions about the topic, their only purpose seems to be to paint “trannies” as pedos and child abusers by implying that the only possible reasons for a trans woman to feed her child is sexual pleasure, which if true would obviously be bad…
And fyi, trans women are biologically able to breastfeed their children. There is medication for biological women and trans women that makes it possible for them to produce milk without being pregnant.
Well, isn’t this a monstrosity, lol.
If a heterosexual man was taking pills to lactate and feed his kids, I would want to wash my eyes with soap…
For very similar reasons this unnatural practice is repugnant.
But those kind of posts aren’t constructive discussions about the topic, their only purpose seems to be to paint “trannies” as pedos and child abusers by implying that the only possible reasons for a trans woman to feed her child is sexual pleasure, which if true would obviously be bad…
Yeah, I mean, I know that you respect transpeople and are supportive of their lifestyle. I do not want to illegalize or actively pursue some sort of conflict with them, but I also want to state my opinions about it frankly.
I am sure that there are people on the Left who LOL and upvote at memes that have violent fates for “Nazis” and many were likely chortling with glee at the fire memes about the dead billionaires in the sub…
But isn’t it sealioning if I then go to your instances and say that you are all violent revolutionaries with homicidal fantasies?
If a heterosexual man was taking pills to lactate and feed his kids, I would want to wash my eyes
Ok but it wasn’t a heterosexual man…
For very similar reasons this unnatural practice is repugnant.
First of all, male lactation is something that has been documented occasionally in nature, including in humans.
Secondly, claiming “unnatural practice” as the sole and obvious justification why we shouldn’t do something always seems very strange to me. We are humans, we have rejected nature a long time ago. Pretty much anything we do is “unnatural” by definition. Any medication ever would fall into the category of “unnatural practices”, so would you sitting on an “unnatural” chair and looking into an “unnatural” screen.
I do not want to illegalize or actively pursue some sort of conflict with them, but I also want to state my opinions about it frankly.
Which is fine in my view.
I am sure that there are people on the Left who LOL and upvote at memes that have violent fates for “Nazis” and many were likely chortling with glee at the fire memes about the dead billionaires in the sub…
There are definitely lefties who have a very weird and ultra romanticized view of “revolution” and there is definitely a lot of negative feelings towards billionaires and others. But ultimately, leftists aren’t primarily concerned with targeting individuals, whether that is individual right wingers, individual politicians, etc.
They are concerned with systemic issues and targeting the system overall.
But isn’t it sealioning if I then go to your instances and say that you are all violent revolutionaries with homicidal fantasies?
It would be, yes. But that’s not what I’m doing in my view, I’m not saying “you are all violent racist homophobes”, if I believed that, I wouldn’t be here. I had a great and insightful conversation just the other day.
But when I see a “meme post” that is about how “Trannies are pedos who abuse children” (masked behind the idea that “it’s just a joke, just a bit of lighthearted fun”) where the most upvoted comment is saying something like “trannyfags should be lined up and shot”, I will call that out.
And my aim isn’t to paint you all as violent extremists, my aim is to show you that tolerating this kind of “discourse” is just destroying your own community and ultimately undermines the free-speech space you want to build.
OK, so let me say that I would just summarize my idea about transgenderism in that it is caused by the following or a combination of the following:
Gender dysphoria
Autogynophilia/autophalophilia, occasionally even shame-centered sadomasochistic practices and the ability to subject others to feelings of intense shame or scandal (this is also involved in exhibitionism)
Sophistry about gender & gender identity
Attempt to resolve other identity and parental issues through extreme self-ownership and hitting the reset button
Some people it is 100% gender dysphoria. Some people it is a combination of all of these. Some people dwell purely in the sophistry aspect, and are easily identifiable by the people who make very superficial changes to their appearance and then simply identify as “non-binary” or some such. They are like the bisexuals of the 1990s: they signal their uniqueness to get prestige without making any commitments.
So… To me, when anyone starts taking such hormones to lactate and presents this to a child, they are not doing it as an actual woman, but they are doing it as a person who is deeply troubled…
And if I was a male who was lactating due to a medical condition, I would not offer it to my own baby. I mean, sure, lol, “What if you’re on a desert island with nothing else to eat…?!” scenario, yeah, OK, lol, but I mean as a principle it is such a departure from the norm. Not only would it take me entirely out of my comfort zone, it wouldn’t be healthy for the baby. Like would you want to be told that you were fed from the hairy nipple of a heterosexual man with a lactation condition…? On the one hand, yuo could say no harm, no foul…
But this is pure, disembodied reason thinking purely along Cause>Effect lines without the proper context of healthy human living, culture, and norms.
I hope that clarifies the position.
And my aim isn’t to paint you all as violent extremists, my aim is to show you that tolerating this kind of “discourse” is just destroying your own community and ultimately undermines the free-speech space you want to build.
Two weeks ago I actually felt bad about a lot of this but now I don’t since I have seen that a lot of the people who voted against us were not just mistaken, but extreme in their views.
You are great - and keep coming back here - and I do accept your criticism. The very rough, immature humor might even be occasionally powered by some authentic, ugly hatred…
But I also actually think that guys getting their hatred out in stupid internet posts is OK. Maybe even helpful. More importantly, I think anyone who is willing to start using violence for political reasons is already insane. There’s nothing I can do to help them. They are at timebomb who will go off for some strange social or religious reason if not for a political one; they are attracted to anything that justifies a violent outburst.
I think free speech is never dangerous, so I am not into censorship. Since we have defederated from people who have such low opinions of free speech… the slap has no sting anymore.
Jesus dude I can’t without the conversation getting uncivil but I’ll try. Libertarians are opposed to authoritarianism. There are plenty of other spaces on the internet where we hangout without the weird political bias. If you hate one person doing something you should hate the other for doing it as well.
Right, I hear you. I dislike tyranny but I also understand how different societies have different standards and models for government. This does not mean that I think their forms of government are justified, but I also do not think that looking back and defecating on the models of very different societies that are formed by very different circumstances is the best look.
For that matter, there are even far left authoritarians that can be admired on some level. Ho Chi Minh has some very redeemable characteristics but I also dislike his persecution of the Catholics, for instance. I also do not look at guys like former Pres. Morales of Bolivia and the current Brazilian President as also having a lot of good qualities though neither of them would stack up at all as Libertarians…
So I also do not balk at occasionally admiring non-Libertarian rightwing authoritarians when it is relevant.
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Yeah I guess that’s the problem everything I see from this instance is mostly grievance politics or murder fantasies about some group. To be fair I wasn’t really sure on defederation but then that shit just started showing up everywhere… And also when someone is saying you are a fascist they are not saying that you are a Nazi they are different words. Sorry about your grandma that story was no Bueno. My great grandmothers family was killed by Italian fascists in the mid 1930s. Anyways here’s a joke before I go to bed.
If Russia and Germany would invade Poland again, who the Poles will shoot at first? Germans. Business before pleasure.
I do not think there are real murder fantasies going on here at all - I am not sure what this is in reference to…
I actually think we are a real Libertarian instance and we have some red pilled Libertarians or “Alt Libertarians” who occasionally say very offensive shit, but the goal has never been nor will it ever be to impose anything on anyone.
Also… If you look at the ModLog… You can go back and see that there have actually been isntances where comments have been removed solely because the N-word was used.
You have upvoted posts where the top comment is “trannyfags should be lined up and shot.”… This is public content, so I’m not sure why you want to deny that stuff like that is going on here and is obviously tolerated…
I don’t know what your opinion is, but there are definitely people here who apparently want death for trans people, or drag queens, or homosexuals, or leftists…
I don’t think the usage of the N-word is what concerns people most…
I actually have no memory of upvoting something as grotesquely worded as that, but perhaps the attached meme was funny.
I do not want death or coercion for anybody.
Then this makes the situation a bit dishonest.
Not a really fun game to play, IMO
😂 no one’s talking about the n word. And real libertarians generally don’t worship or want a dictator but I guess the meaning of the word changed recently or whatever.
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Plus this is why people upvote the drag show meme:
Not because we think we need to interfere in the lives of gay people - nothing can be done really to make them choose anything differnet, it is the way of their life, let them live it - but because we dislike groomers, and that is what a “family friendly” drag show is based around, more or less.
Virtually everyone dislikes groomers… But you can’t throw a whole group of people into the same box for the actions of individuals… That would be just as ridiculous as saying “Christians are groomers because the catholic church has a problem with child abuse” or “all conservatives are nazis”…
And fyi, trans women are biologically able to breastfeed their children. There is medication for biological women and trans women that makes it possible for them to produce milk without being pregnant.
I’m not saying I support it, in my opinion there are concerns with taking this medicine (this applies to both biological women and trans women taking that medicine). But those kind of posts aren’t constructive discussions about the topic, their only purpose seems to be to paint “trannies” as pedos and child abusers by implying that the only possible reasons for a trans woman to feed her child is sexual pleasure, which if true would obviously be bad…
Well, isn’t this a monstrosity, lol.
If a heterosexual man was taking pills to lactate and feed his kids, I would want to wash my eyes with soap…
For very similar reasons this unnatural practice is repugnant.
Yeah, I mean, I know that you respect transpeople and are supportive of their lifestyle. I do not want to illegalize or actively pursue some sort of conflict with them, but I also want to state my opinions about it frankly.
I am sure that there are people on the Left who LOL and upvote at memes that have violent fates for “Nazis” and many were likely chortling with glee at the fire memes about the dead billionaires in the sub…
But isn’t it sealioning if I then go to your instances and say that you are all violent revolutionaries with homicidal fantasies?
Ok but it wasn’t a heterosexual man…
First of all, male lactation is something that has been documented occasionally in nature, including in humans.
Secondly, claiming “unnatural practice” as the sole and obvious justification why we shouldn’t do something always seems very strange to me. We are humans, we have rejected nature a long time ago. Pretty much anything we do is “unnatural” by definition. Any medication ever would fall into the category of “unnatural practices”, so would you sitting on an “unnatural” chair and looking into an “unnatural” screen.
Which is fine in my view.
There are definitely lefties who have a very weird and ultra romanticized view of “revolution” and there is definitely a lot of negative feelings towards billionaires and others. But ultimately, leftists aren’t primarily concerned with targeting individuals, whether that is individual right wingers, individual politicians, etc.
They are concerned with systemic issues and targeting the system overall.
It would be, yes. But that’s not what I’m doing in my view, I’m not saying “you are all violent racist homophobes”, if I believed that, I wouldn’t be here. I had a great and insightful conversation just the other day.
But when I see a “meme post” that is about how “Trannies are pedos who abuse children” (masked behind the idea that “it’s just a joke, just a bit of lighthearted fun”) where the most upvoted comment is saying something like “trannyfags should be lined up and shot”, I will call that out.
And my aim isn’t to paint you all as violent extremists, my aim is to show you that tolerating this kind of “discourse” is just destroying your own community and ultimately undermines the free-speech space you want to build.
OK, so let me say that I would just summarize my idea about transgenderism in that it is caused by the following or a combination of the following:
Some people it is 100% gender dysphoria. Some people it is a combination of all of these. Some people dwell purely in the sophistry aspect, and are easily identifiable by the people who make very superficial changes to their appearance and then simply identify as “non-binary” or some such. They are like the bisexuals of the 1990s: they signal their uniqueness to get prestige without making any commitments.
So… To me, when anyone starts taking such hormones to lactate and presents this to a child, they are not doing it as an actual woman, but they are doing it as a person who is deeply troubled…
And if I was a male who was lactating due to a medical condition, I would not offer it to my own baby. I mean, sure, lol, “What if you’re on a desert island with nothing else to eat…?!” scenario, yeah, OK, lol, but I mean as a principle it is such a departure from the norm. Not only would it take me entirely out of my comfort zone, it wouldn’t be healthy for the baby. Like would you want to be told that you were fed from the hairy nipple of a heterosexual man with a lactation condition…? On the one hand, yuo could say no harm, no foul…
But this is pure, disembodied reason thinking purely along Cause>Effect lines without the proper context of healthy human living, culture, and norms.
I hope that clarifies the position.
Two weeks ago I actually felt bad about a lot of this but now I don’t since I have seen that a lot of the people who voted against us were not just mistaken, but extreme in their views.
You are great - and keep coming back here - and I do accept your criticism. The very rough, immature humor might even be occasionally powered by some authentic, ugly hatred…
But I also actually think that guys getting their hatred out in stupid internet posts is OK. Maybe even helpful. More importantly, I think anyone who is willing to start using violence for political reasons is already insane. There’s nothing I can do to help them. They are at timebomb who will go off for some strange social or religious reason if not for a political one; they are attracted to anything that justifies a violent outburst.
I think free speech is never dangerous, so I am not into censorship. Since we have defederated from people who have such low opinions of free speech… the slap has no sting anymore.
What’s that have to do with putting people in a woodchipper? Like do you really not understand?😂
… So every single time someone jokes about someone going in a woodchipper it translates to a real clear intent to murder?
That’s silly.
No. I am not saying that that’s silly.
What dictator is being worshiped?
Jesus dude I can’t without the conversation getting uncivil but I’ll try. Libertarians are opposed to authoritarianism. There are plenty of other spaces on the internet where we hangout without the weird political bias. If you hate one person doing something you should hate the other for doing it as well.
What does this have to do with dictators…?
Are you saying… if we hate Communist dictators, we should also hate Fascist dictators…?
Yeah I’m pretty done with this but I’ll spoon feed you… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism
And yes if you are a librarian you should dislike all dictators even those who are not communist or fascists.
Sic semper tyrannis
Anyways have a good night or day!
Right, I hear you. I dislike tyranny but I also understand how different societies have different standards and models for government. This does not mean that I think their forms of government are justified, but I also do not think that looking back and defecating on the models of very different societies that are formed by very different circumstances is the best look.
For that matter, there are even far left authoritarians that can be admired on some level. Ho Chi Minh has some very redeemable characteristics but I also dislike his persecution of the Catholics, for instance. I also do not look at guys like former Pres. Morales of Bolivia and the current Brazilian President as also having a lot of good qualities though neither of them would stack up at all as Libertarians…
So I also do not balk at occasionally admiring non-Libertarian rightwing authoritarians when it is relevant.
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don’t dox yourself brother
Who even cares that much about him he probably owns guns like every other self respecting American. Also who really has time for that.
THEY are coming.
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Don’t worry I haven’t told them about the safe of electronics and backup cash you keep in the horse stables.