@jeff@maga_force@lewdthewides@AyyLMAO Literally never once looked at lemmy-ui with css enabled
I used to do a simple braindead threading thing of parentid->id, but they changed it so you just get the full path from post to current instead, and I just don’t bother altering it. I might later, but I have a heap of other shit to fix first, like actually fetching more comments.
haha bash go brrrr
Yes. The fundamental difference is the UI focus on topics instead of people. I find it leads to more focused discussions when everybody interested in a topic know exactly where to go instead of being lucky enough to know someone who chose to share something interesting they can comment on.
Friendica has proper groups which interconnects with Lemmy. kbin’s Magazines are in ActivityPub terms a group I think. At the moment there seems to be no de-facto standardization, we’ll see what becomes the norm.
Friendica is a bitch to run though, a friend attempted this and found out that Mastodon instances seemingly DDoS it (it’s easier to run Pleroma or even MK).
@lewdthewides@AyyLMAO Maybe it’s because the nature of the Reddit-style reply, he only mentions the one above. To tag the rest he needs to do it manually.
@lewdthewides@AyyLMAO Just a consequence of trying to make physically incompatible discussion platforms (Reddit-lite and Twitter-lite) speak the same protocol.
I don’t even know where to begin. I’d ask what you mean with “physically incompatible”, like the GUI? Trying to make two platforms speak the same protocol? Have you heard about the ActivityPub protocol and how both Lemmy and whatever you’re on currently use it? Have you checked out lemmybb, a classic bulletin-board presentation of a standard Lemmy database?
You know what, just forget about it. Let’s not interact again.
@AyyLMAO >Have you heard about the ActivityPub protocol
What do you think half of the thread is discussing? My point was, different AP implementations with different purposes (in this case, Pleroma/Misskey/Mastodon/whatnot on one side, Lemmy on other) define their behavior independently. Hence the inherited mentions here and lack of them on Lemmy’s side. I don’t even mind it that much, it makes the network more fun.
>You know what, just forget about it. Let’s not interact again.
Oh well.
I’m sort of stealing/adapting Lemmy’s apub implementation for my own project and I know one of the main features of apub is to have multiple types of software being able to interact with each other and stuff, but would it be possible to just federate with instances of my own project? I don’t really want to shit up pleroma/mastodon with posts from my project
@AyyLMAO@mint okay this is so retarded that i know it’s not a troll and is legitmately serious about this.
hi, user of reddit. here on fedi we have a primarily short form and high frequency back and forth flowing conversation style structure. activitypub in fact was a nepotism trust fund weeny replacement for pshb+salmon+atom commonly referred to as “ostatus”, an offshoot of statusnet implemented by gnu social. the primary concern the network always had with apub was that it wasn’t really a protocol for federation but building blocks for making your own. this would cause things that CAN federate that really should NOT (like reddit) to do so. think what would happen if suddenly you could have twitter users jump right into your reddit thread? that’s what lemmy is, the square peg of reddit being pounding into the round hole of twitter but each are decentralized. yeah you can make them talk but from the perspective of the end user you get nothing short of a god damned inscrutiable clusterfuck of insufferable asspain and unwarranted self importance waxing on about the essential nature of topical discussion threads e.g. all your replies. all i did was link someone else that was asking what lemmy looked like and now here we are. you done being a reddit user or are we going to need to get out the medical futa ponies?
@mint@ryona.agency @AyyLMAO@exploding-heads.com @lewdthewides@hidamari.apartments can’t you create per-thread inbox/outbox/whatever purely in terms of AP so that it would be truly instance-agnostic?
@pomstan@AyyLMAO@lewdthewides In all AP impelmentations I’ve seen inboxes/outboxes are actor-bound if an instance-wide inbox isn’t being used. There are no separate fields for inboxes in objects, so making a thread-wide inbox would require making that thread an AP actor.
@lewdthewides@AyyLMAO@maga_force@jeff Replies are clearly offset from each other by a few pixels, same as on any other site with tree comments (Reddit, HN, Habr, whatever) and Pleroma-FE’s very own tree-style comment mode.
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@lewdthewides @AyyLMAO @maga_force @shit this is what the threading looks like. it’s causing me brain damage looking at it rn, be warned.
@jeff @AyyLMAO @maga_force @lewdthewides @Shit the css looks bad
@sulian @AyyLMAO @maga_force @lewdthewides @shit yeah, it does
@jeff @AyyLMAO @maga_force @lewdthewides @Shit haha do you remember the meme
@sulian @AyyLMAO @maga_force @lewdthewides @shit no one lets me forget it tbh
@jeff @AyyLMAO @maga_force @lewdthewides @Shit :blob_peek: i guess it’s time to say that it was me :blobsweat:
tbh that got way more attention than i put into it haha, my bad :kirby_walk: :oh_no_bubble:
@sulian @AyyLMAO @maga_force @lewdthewides @shit it killed my desire to work on that project forever.
@jeff @AyyLMAO @maga_force @lewdthewides @Shit yeah trolling kids on anonymous image boards are pretty annoying :blobcatsadreach:
@jeff @maga_force @lewdthewides @AyyLMAO Literally never once looked at lemmy-ui with css enabled
I used to do a simple braindead threading thing of parentid->id, but they changed it so you just get the full path from post to current instead, and I just don’t bother altering it. I might later, but I have a heap of other shit to fix first, like actually fetching more comments.
haha bash go brrrr
@jeff @AyyLMAO @maga_force @lewdthewides Lemmy is just Fedi for reddit brains 🤣
Yes. The fundamental difference is the UI focus on topics instead of people. I find it leads to more focused discussions when everybody interested in a topic know exactly where to go instead of being lucky enough to know someone who chose to share something interesting they can comment on.
@AyyLMAO I’ve heard that’s why some Fedi stacks are trying to add groups though.
Friendica has proper groups which interconnects with Lemmy. kbin’s Magazines are in ActivityPub terms a group I think. At the moment there seems to be no de-facto standardization, we’ll see what becomes the norm.
Friendica is a bitch to run though, a friend attempted this and found out that Mastodon instances seemingly DDoS it (it’s easier to run Pleroma or even MK).
@PurpCat @AyyLMAO those GET floods can get pretty large
@PurpCat @AyyLMAO fedi is usenet atop the web but without groups
@PurpCat @AyyLMAO @maga_force @lewdthewides correct and fedi is twitter for 4chan
@jeff @AyyLMAO @maga_force @shit that lack of indentation to indicate what’s a reply to what is horrible
Seeing green @'s in every reply from you guys sticks out like a sore thumb on this end.
@AyyLMAO your replies are stripping out everyone else from getting notifications
@lewdthewides @AyyLMAO Maybe it’s because the nature of the Reddit-style reply, he only mentions the one above. To tag the rest he needs to do it manually.
@lewdthewides @AyyLMAO Just a consequence of trying to make physically incompatible discussion platforms (Reddit-lite and Twitter-lite) speak the same protocol.
I don’t even know where to begin. I’d ask what you mean with “physically incompatible”, like the GUI? Trying to make two platforms speak the same protocol? Have you heard about the ActivityPub protocol and how both Lemmy and whatever you’re on currently use it? Have you checked out lemmybb, a classic bulletin-board presentation of a standard Lemmy database?
You know what, just forget about it. Let’s not interact again.
@jeff@federated.fun @AyyLMAO@exploding-heads.com @maga_force@exploding-heads.com @shit@sh.itjust.works @lewdthewides@hidamari.apartments Man, this was the first time I’ve been subjected to smug ledditor writing in years. Leave, nigger.
WOW RACISM THATS A 420 REDDIT GOLD DEDICTION THERE BUCKO - YIKES!!!
Uh we don’t use that word. You’re b a n n e d .
@Owl@nicecrew.digital @jeff@federated.fun @AyyLMAO@exploding-heads.com @maga_force@exploding-heads.com @shit@sh.itjust.works @lewdthewides@hidamari.apartments I wonder if the ledditors will isolate in the same way that mastotroons have, as they are just as culturally incompatible due to their severe brainrot.
@burner @lewdthewides @maga_force @AyyLMAO @shit they’ll go back by monday. let’s have a house party until then.
@jeff@federated.fun @lewdthewides@hidamari.apartments @maga_force@exploding-heads.com @AyyLMAO@exploding-heads.com @shit@sh.itjust.works They’ll probably act like journos and talk about how decentralization is the future, then go back to their hugbox after they get called a nigger for a month straight
OOOOOO LAWWWDEMMMMM RAANNGGSSS :pepe_cringe:
@AyyLMAO >Have you heard about the ActivityPub protocol
What do you think half of the thread is discussing? My point was, different AP implementations with different purposes (in this case, Pleroma/Misskey/Mastodon/whatnot on one side, Lemmy on other) define their behavior independently. Hence the inherited mentions here and lack of them on Lemmy’s side. I don’t even mind it that much, it makes the network more fun.
>You know what, just forget about it. Let’s not interact again.
Oh well.
I’m sort of stealing/adapting Lemmy’s apub implementation for my own project and I know one of the main features of apub is to have multiple types of software being able to interact with each other and stuff, but would it be possible to just federate with instances of my own project? I don’t really want to shit up pleroma/mastodon with posts from my project
Just do whitelist-only federation?
@kroner @AyyLMAO It should be. Fchan posts never federated to Pleroma, for example.
@mint @AyyLMAO this guy is legit fucking retarded. which is no shock because…
>reddit user
@AyyLMAO @mint okay this is so retarded that i know it’s not a troll and is legitmately serious about this.
hi, user of reddit. here on fedi we have a primarily short form and high frequency back and forth flowing conversation style structure. activitypub in fact was a nepotism trust fund weeny replacement for pshb+salmon+atom commonly referred to as “ostatus”, an offshoot of statusnet implemented by gnu social. the primary concern the network always had with apub was that it wasn’t really a protocol for federation but building blocks for making your own. this would cause things that CAN federate that really should NOT (like reddit) to do so. think what would happen if suddenly you could have twitter users jump right into your reddit thread? that’s what lemmy is, the square peg of reddit being pounding into the round hole of twitter but each are decentralized. yeah you can make them talk but from the perspective of the end user you get nothing short of a god damned inscrutiable clusterfuck of insufferable asspain and unwarranted self importance waxing on about the essential nature of topical discussion threads e.g. all your replies. all i did was link someone else that was asking what lemmy looked like and now here we are. you done being a reddit user or are we going to need to get out the medical futa ponies?
Horse btw.
@jeff @AyyLMAO @mint
We need to build a Lemmy-Nostr bridge for a war of the opposites.
cc: @3
@mia @3 @AyyLMAO @jeff I believe it should already work as long as some nostrich manages to stumble upon the thread.
@mint@ryona.agency @AyyLMAO@exploding-heads.com @lewdthewides@hidamari.apartments can’t you create per-thread inbox/outbox/whatever purely in terms of AP so that it would be truly instance-agnostic?
@pomstan @AyyLMAO @lewdthewides In all AP impelmentations I’ve seen inboxes/outboxes are actor-bound if an instance-wide inbox isn’t being used. There are no separate fields for inboxes in objects, so making a thread-wide inbox would require making that thread an AP actor.
@mint @AyyLMAO @lewdthewides i am sure they’ll be annoyed enough to just go back on monday.
LAW DEM RANNNNGGSSS :yotsuba_cry:
@lewdthewides @AyyLMAO @maga_force @jeff I’m iffy on the lemmy UI but it’s serviceable. kbin’s is more pleasant to the eye.
@lewdthewides @AyyLMAO @maga_force @jeff Replies are clearly offset from each other by a few pixels, same as on any other site with tree comments (Reddit, HN, Habr, whatever) and Pleroma-FE’s very own tree-style comment mode.
@mint @AyyLMAO @maga_force @jeff @lewdthewides yeah it’s noticeable
@mischievoustomato @AyyLMAO @maga_force @jeff @lewdthewides @mint barely.
@pettanko @AyyLMAO @maga_force @jeff @lewdthewides @mint i can!
@lewdthewides @AyyLMAO @maga_force @shit oh no it does indent, just by like 3 pixels.